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DATE 2002-10-31
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Libral Arts and Computers

October 31, 2002 To the Liberal Arts, He Adds Computer Science By STEVE
LOHR

PRINCETON, N.J. -- TALL and slender with a flowing beard, dressed in a
gray sweater and jeans, Brian Kernighan works his audience with a fast
patter and a ready smile. The challenge he has set for himself is to
demystify computing for a classroom full of liberal arts undergraduates
at Princeton.

It so happens that Mr. Kernighan, 60, is a renowned computer scientist,
a member of the Bell Labs team of the late 1960's and 70's that
developed and nurtured the Unix operating system and the C programming
language, innovations with a far-reaching impact on computing. He is
also a best-selling author of technical books on programming that have
sold millions of copies and been translated into more than 20 languages.

None of that really matters in this course, "Computers in Our World."
The students are headed toward degrees in politics, history, English,
art history, psychology and economics. Unlike many college students in
the dot-com boom years of the late 90's, they have no plans to make a
killing, or even a living, in the technology business.

Yet at a time when the corporate world and Wall Street are in the funk
of a technology hangover, the students in Mr. Kernighan's class have a
perspective that seems a levelheaded antidote to the prevailing gloom,
based on conversations with a few of them. They have no illusions that
computing is a silver bullet for the economy or a sure-fire path to
riches. But they grew up surrounded by personal computers and
cellphones. E-mail, instant messaging, Web searches, online shopping and
swapping MP3 music files are second nature to them. They understand that
computing is the modern tool used for everything from Hollywood special
effects to unraveling the secrets of the human genome.

They don't believe that digital technology is inundating modern life at
the alarming speed of "a Bengali typhoon," as Wired magazine once put
it, but view it more as a rising tide whose impact is spreading
steadily. Computing, they figure, is a good thing to know more about and
to understand in a deeper way - while satisfying that pesky requirement
that all Princeton students must take a course in "quantitative
reasoning."

Mr. Kernighan, it seems, has made some encouraging progress with the
fall semester class. The students do projects like making their own Web
pages and writing a few simple programs. And they speak of a new
appreciation for computers and moments of epiphany along the way.

"I've always used computers, but I had no prior knowledge of what goes
on inside them," said Lori Piranian, a freshman. "Taking the course has
given me a new respect for computing. It's amazing what goes into a
computer and the history of how we got to where we are now."

Mr. Kernighan's course is a kind of intellectual smorgasbord, combining
public policy - like technology's impact on privacy, copyright and
antitrust matters - with large helpings of practical knowledge of how
things work, from operating systems to disk drives. Still, some students
said that the single class session that made the strongest impression
was Mr. Kernighan's lecture on binary numbers, also known as binary
digits or bits. In his talk, Mr. Kernighan explained that everything a
PC does - handling text, music or video - is all just a matter of
processing 1's and 0's to the machine. The difference between today's
multimedia notebooks and the room-size calculators of computing's early
days, he notes, is mainly faster bit-processing engines and increasingly
clever software.

"What you come to understand," said Joseph Falencki, a junior, "is how
simple, yet how complicated, a computer really is. That was the 'aha'
moment for me."

After a late-October class, Mr. Kernighan explained that his goal in the
course was to impart an intelligent skepticism about computer
technology, an informed sense of its possibilities and limitations. "And
you can't do that in the abstract," he said, which is why programming
and projects are essential elements in his course. Smiling, he mentioned
the often-quoted line from the science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
A wonderful phrase, Mr. Kernighan said, "but there is no magic."

Mr. Kernighan acquired his taste for teaching while on a year's leave
from Bell Labs in 1996 at Harvard, where he taught an introductory
computer science course. "I got an enormous kick from it," he said. "To
me, it felt the way it must be for an actor onstage - the rush when it
clicks, and the letdown when it doesn't."

So four years later, when Princeton asked him to join the faculty, Mr.
Kernighan agreed and said he wanted to teach computing to liberal arts
students as well as his Advanced Programming Techniques course in the
computer science department. His former colleagues were not surprised
that he turned to teaching, including teaching nontechnical students.

"It's pretty clear that Brian has a continuing interest and commitment
to education - writing well-read books was how this was first
expressed," said Dennis Ritchie, creator of the C language. Indeed, the
best-read of his books is "The C Programming Language," written with Mr.
Ritchie and first published in 1978. To professional programmers, the
book is known simply as "K & R." Most of the text, the programming
examples and problems came from Mr. Kernighan, whom Mr. Ritchie calls "a
fluent and charming writer on technical subjects."

Mr. Kernighan genuinely enjoys translating his technical field and
explaining its significance for humanities students. But in his
understated way, he also thinks it is something that must be done and
perhaps contributes to the greater good. "For better or worse, the
people who become leaders and decision makers in politics, law and
business are going to come from schools like Princeton," Mr. Kernighan
said. "What I'm trying to do is give them some of the tools of the trade
that will make it possible for them to think intelligently about this
technology for themselves."

Such sentiments place Mr. Kernighan within the camp of computer
scientists who believe that computing deserves a place in general
education.

It is a point of view with a rich history, dating at least as far back
as the 60's at Dartmouth. As the impact of computers spread through
society, two professors, John G. Kemeny and Thomas E. Kurtz, decided
that Dartmouth students should have hands-on experience with computers.
With the university's full-fledged support, they designed a computer
time-sharing system and a simple programming language, Basic (Beginner's
All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code), which proved to be an enduring
contribution to computing. Stripped-down versions of Basic became the
programming choice of the microcomputer industry in the mid-70's. One
variant, Microsoft Basic, was the founding product of the world's
biggest software maker.

Some computer scientists have pushed ever since to make computing a
central part of a liberal arts education. In 1999, a report by the
National Research Council, an arm of the National Academy of Sciences,
titled "Being Fluent with Information Technology" called for a broader
definition of computer education that would emphasize not just practical
skills but also concepts, principles and ideas. That is, precisely the
sort of course Mr. Kernighan is teaching at Princeton.

In an October class focusing on computer operating systems, he began
with a newspaper article on the challenge Microsoft faces from Linux, a
descendant of the Unix operating system that is distributed free and
written and debugged by a volunteer community of programmers.
(Incidentally, Mr. Kernighan gave Unix its name back at Bell Labs in
1970.) The governments of China, Germany and other nations are using and
promoting Linux as an alternative to Microsoft's Windows operating
system. "It's that important to them, to become less dependent on
Microsoft," Mr. Kernighan said. "To do that, they will use Linux instead
of a program written by one of the premier technology companies in the
world."

Twenty years ago, Mr. Kernighan observed, "Only nerds cared about
operating systems." Now, he added, the subject is a public-policy issue,
even front-page news occasionally.

He traffics in metaphor and analogy. The operating system is a juggler,
keeping several different programs running at once - like balls in the
air. He compares file folders, which show links to files on the hard
disk, to a library card catalog, which "is not the books but the
structural information that tells where things are,'' like the file
folders in a computer system.

There is no mention in class of Mr. Kernighan's distinguished
background. But most of the students have run a Google search or two on
Mr. Kernighan and seem somewhat impressed. "He wrote that book on the C
language back at Bell Labs a long time ago, before I was born," said Ms.
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  1. 2002-10-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use and Property Rights in the digital age
  2. 2002-10-01 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: DC 7/17: Advocates Meeting with DOC
  3. 2002-10-01 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: DC 7/17: Advocates Meeting with DOC
  4. 2002-10-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: RE: [hangout] Congressional Letter to Send to Weiners Office [rub en-at-mrbrklyn.com] [Lamar.Robertson-at-mail.house.gov]
  5. 2002-10-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] So where are we at with the Journal at this point?
  6. 2002-10-02 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] La Guardia Demo Status: We MUST HAVE volunteers to work on publicity
  7. 2002-10-02 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: My speaking in DC
  8. 2002-10-02 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Cgi Search
  9. 2002-10-02 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] fair use bill
  10. 2002-10-02 Brendan Tween <btween-at-cossettepost.com> RE: [hangout] fair use bill
  11. 2002-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Cgi Search
  12. 2002-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Europe for Fun and Pleasure
  13. 2002-10-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Europe for Fun and Pleasure
  14. 2002-10-02 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Europe for Fun and Pleasure
  15. 2002-10-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Funding
  16. 2002-10-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Other CUNY Demo Stuff
  17. 2002-10-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Coast to Coast Fame
  18. 2002-10-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: My speaking in DC
  19. 2002-10-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] World's First Review of Red Hat 8.0-Psyche
  20. 2002-10-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Digital Rights bills
  21. 2002-10-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Digital Rights bills
  22. 2002-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Fiction is almost as strange as truth -- from th e Onion
  23. 2002-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] this mailing list
  24. 2002-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: hylafax (SuSE-SA:2002:035)]
  25. 2002-10-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [thomas-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: mod_php4 (SuSE-SA:2002:036)]
  26. 2002-10-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyer from last Demo
  27. 2002-10-07 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] this mailing list
  28. 2002-10-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] audio PC
  29. 2002-10-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Digital Rights bills
  30. 2002-10-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylug-talk] [hangout] La Guardia Demo Status: We MUST HAVE volunteers to work on publicity
  31. 2002-10-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital Rights bills
  32. 2002-10-08 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  33. 2002-10-08 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  34. 2002-10-08 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  35. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  36. 2002-10-08 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  37. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  38. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: La Guardia Demo Status: volunteering: publicity
  39. 2002-10-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: La Guardia Demo Status: volunteering: publicity
  40. 2002-10-08 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] FreeVo
  41. 2002-10-08 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] FreeVo
  42. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] September Journal
  43. 2002-10-08 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  44. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] XP and Samba
  45. 2002-10-08 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Accents and other diacritical marks
  46. 2002-10-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Accents and other diacritiical marks
  47. 2002-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Fiction is almost as strange as truth -- from th e Onion
  48. 2002-10-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylug-talk] [hangout] La Guardia Demo Status: We MUST HAVE volunteers to work on publicity
  49. 2002-10-08 From: "Miguel E. Jimenez" <mej-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Accents and other diacritical marks
  50. 2002-10-08 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  51. 2002-10-08 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  52. 2002-10-08 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] demo publicity
  53. 2002-10-08 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] demo publicity
  54. 2002-10-08 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [nylug-talk] [hangout] La Guardia Demo Status: We MUST HAVE volunteers to work on publicity
  55. 2002-10-06 From: "perry smith" <psmithcisdd-at-lycos.com> Subject: [hangout] audio PC
  56. 2002-10-03 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Berman spreading more fud through Findlaw.
  57. 2002-10-11 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Home Theater Links
  58. 2002-10-11 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> RE: [hangout] Hardware Source
  59. 2002-10-11 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  60. 2002-10-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  61. 2002-10-11 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.org
  62. 2002-10-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> RE: [hangout] Re: Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  63. 2002-10-11 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] cd burning
  64. 2002-10-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] videoing demo
  65. 2002-10-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] videoing demo
  66. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] India moving to Linux
  67. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Source
  68. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  69. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  70. 2002-10-11 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] anti DRM arguments
  71. 2002-10-11 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Source
  72. 2002-10-11 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Re: the schedule of the demo
  73. 2002-10-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  74. 2002-10-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Enterprise Linux Event - Dec 03-04, 2002 Boston Mass.
  75. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bayonne at the Free Software Business Demo
  76. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting
  77. 2002-10-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  78. 2002-10-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [notifier-at-eps.gov: FRAUDULENT LETTERS] Your Government at work
  79. 2002-10-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: perl modules for users
  80. 2002-10-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Phone
  81. 2002-10-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Interwoven/Perl Developer, New York City (onsite), United States, NY, New York City]
  82. 2002-10-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Class flyers at demo
  83. 2002-10-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Ammo for the War on Stupidity
  84. 2002-10-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] shm
  85. 2002-10-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Save the Libraries
  86. 2002-10-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ammo for the War on Stupidity
  87. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  88. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  89. 2002-10-14 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  90. 2002-10-14 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  91. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Business Initiative/Networking This Evening]
  92. 2002-10-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Fre Software Chambers of Commerce Pages up
  93. 2002-10-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Much interesting news today in the Times
  94. 2002-10-13 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Don't forget to take the images
  95. 2002-10-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Don't forget to take the images
  96. 2002-10-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Perl Quiz of the Week [dha-at-panix.com]
  97. 2002-10-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Don't forget to take the images [casandra-at-ix.netcom.com]
  98. 2002-10-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS 1st Aniversity
  99. 2002-10-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ari Jort article for journal
  100. 2002-10-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] INIT problem
  101. 2002-10-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] There is a lesson here somewhere...
  102. 2002-10-12 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Re: the schedule of the demo
  103. 2002-10-11 From: "Mahesh Chhatlani" <chhatlani-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] India moving to Linux
  104. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Report on NYLXS.org Matter
  105. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [root-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  106. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS - Free Software Chamber of Commerce
  107. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS - Free Software Chamber of Commerce
  108. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [syscon-at-telusplanet.net: Re: [SL] interesting info. Do we have to be worried?]
  109. 2002-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [syscon-at-telusplanet.net: Re: [SL] interesting info. Do we have to be worried?]
  110. 2002-10-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [SL] interesting info. Do we have to be worried? [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  111. 2002-10-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [SL] interesting info. Do we have to be worried? [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  112. 2002-10-15 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  113. 2002-10-15 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  114. 2002-10-15 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  115. 2002-10-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  116. 2002-10-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  117. 2002-10-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  118. 2002-10-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  119. 2002-10-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  120. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What the hell
  121. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What the hell
  122. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What the hell
  123. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What the hell
  124. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS.NET
  125. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Chamber of Commerce - Join us
  126. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  127. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Free Software Chamber of Commerce - Join us
  128. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Here is the La Guardia Flier
  129. 2002-10-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Demo Volunteers needed this Week and Next
  130. 2002-10-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Free Software Chamber of Commerce - Join us
  131. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software Chamber of Commerce - Join us
  132. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Report on NYLXS.org Matter
  133. 2002-10-16 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Board Report on NYLXS.org Matter
  134. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Report on NYLXS.org Matter
  135. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  136. 2002-10-16 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  137. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  138. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLUG Meeting tonite
  139. 2002-10-16 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  140. 2002-10-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  141. 2002-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Call for Volunteers
  142. 2002-10-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  143. 2002-10-16 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  144. 2002-10-16 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  145. 2002-10-16 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  146. 2002-10-16 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Call for Volunteers
  147. 2002-10-16 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  148. 2002-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  149. 2002-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Call for Volunteers
  150. 2002-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  151. 2002-10-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  152. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Kmail client question
  153. 2002-10-17 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Kmail client question
  154. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Kmail client question
  155. 2002-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  156. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  157. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  158. 2002-10-17 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Hangout Problem Update
  159. 2002-10-17 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  160. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  161. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  162. 2002-10-17 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Schedule flyer for LaGuardia Demo
  163. 2002-10-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  164. 2002-10-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  165. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Re: hangout problem
  166. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  167. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] quick confirmation: Bloomberg terminals run on Linux?
  168. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Publicity
  169. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Publicity
  170. 2002-10-17 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  171. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  172. 2002-10-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  173. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What is the hangout address?
  174. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  175. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] problem with reply-to being changed, another Kmail question
  176. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity-College Student help needed
  177. 2002-10-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] problem with reply-to being changed, another Kmail question
  178. 2002-10-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Nov class flyers
  179. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  180. 2002-10-17 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Hangout Problem Update
  181. 2002-10-17 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  182. 2002-10-17 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  183. 2002-10-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  184. 2002-10-17 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  185. 2002-10-17 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  186. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  187. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  188. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  189. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  190. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  191. 2002-10-17 Joe Villari <joev-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] The Class
  192. 2002-10-17 Joe Villari <joev-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] The Class
  193. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The Class
  194. 2002-10-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The DMCA - Wall Street Loves it
  195. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Good News...
  196. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyer Sunday?
  197. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal
  198. 2002-10-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  199. 2002-10-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  200. 2002-10-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] The Class
  201. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The Class
  202. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Journal
  203. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Journal
  204. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Marco
  205. 2002-10-18 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  206. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Demo Transportation
  207. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  208. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Demo Transportation
  209. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  210. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  211. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  212. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Call for Volunteers
  213. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  214. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  215. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  216. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC and usiness advocay
  217. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Buttons
  218. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] transportation
  219. 2002-10-18 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] transportation
  220. 2002-10-18 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  221. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] transportation
  222. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] fsccfortbeDemo
  223. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] transportation
  224. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  225. 2002-10-18 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  226. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Conversation with Brett
  227. 2002-10-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Putting up Flyer For the Demo
  228. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Good news and great news!
  229. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] F*** Wynkoop et al
  230. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: We need your bio for the Free Software Expo
  231. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: We need your bio for the Free Software Expo
  232. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Busy Week for NYLXS
  233. 2002-10-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Good news and great news!
  234. 2002-10-19 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Re: We need your bio for the Free Software Expo
  235. 2002-10-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: We need your bio for the Free Software Expo
  236. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: We need your bio for the Free Software Expo
  237. 2002-10-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] GNU Bayonne key telephone system to be exhibited next week
  238. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: GNU Bayonne key telephone system to be exhibited next week [dyfet-at-ostel.com]
  239. 2002-10-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What day for Network Meetings?
  240. 2002-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Followup Action to Congressman Weiner's Meeting last month
  241. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Project Management Software
  242. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Citocorp at 12 Noon
  243. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Double Cursor/Pointer with X11 V4
  244. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Free Software Expo LaGuardia College
  245. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:Demo
  246. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Project Management Software [bingalls-at-fit-zones.com]
  247. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Wed Oct 23 GNU/Linux Business Demo - info pages
  248. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Events for Today
  249. 2002-10-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYNMA Announcement
  250. 2002-10-20 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: palladium presentation - anyone going? (fwd)
  251. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Monday 21 October 2002 NYLXS In-Service: Billy Donahue on Joys and Perils of Programming with C and Tcl
  252. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dot Org Pavillion in NYC
  253. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Birds of a Feather
  254. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] JOURNAL BY THE DEMO?
  255. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Dot Org Pavillion in NYC [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  256. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com: Re: Dot Org Pavillion in NYC]
  257. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com: Re: Dot Org Pavillion in NYC]
  258. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Dot Org Pavillion in NYC [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  259. 2002-10-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Dot Org Pavillion in NYC [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  260. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: postgresql (SuSE-SA:2002:038) [thomas-at-suse.de]
  261. 2002-10-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Monday 21 October 2002 NYLXS In-Service: Billy Donahue on Joys and Perils of Programming with C and Tcl
  262. 2002-10-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  263. 2002-10-21 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  264. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paper
  265. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  266. 2002-10-21 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  267. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  268. 2002-10-21 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Publicity - Attention Dimitar
  269. 2002-10-21 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity - Attention Dimitar
  270. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: GNU/Linux within the New York City School System | Was: Re: [hangout] cablevision
  271. 2002-10-21 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Still the Free Software Demo Mislabeled...
  272. 2002-10-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  273. 2002-10-21 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia Still the Free Software Demo Mislabeled...
  274. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Publicity - Attention Dimitar
  275. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Publicity - Attention Dimitar
  276. 2002-10-21 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  277. 2002-10-21 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Publicity
  278. 2002-10-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  279. 2002-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [oberdorf-at-earthlink.net: ny lxs]
  280. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tonites Meeting
  281. 2002-10-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNU/Linux within the New York City School System | Was: Re: [hangout] cablevision
  282. 2002-10-22 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nylug-talk] 15' monitors (3 of them): free!
  283. 2002-10-22 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] the demo schedule
  284. 2002-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the demo schedule
  285. 2002-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the demo schedule
  286. 2002-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paper
  287. 2002-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IRC Board Meeting on Thusday Nite 8:00PM
  288. 2002-10-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] the demo schedule
  289. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the demo schedule
  290. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [nylug-talk] 15' monitors (3 of them): free!
  291. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Calendar Item for NYLXS
  292. 2002-10-22 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fair Use
  293. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fair Use
  294. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fair Use
  295. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fair Use
  296. 2002-10-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Publicity
  297. 2002-10-22 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] the demo schedule
  298. 2002-10-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] the demo schedule
  299. 2002-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Set up tonite
  300. 2002-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Prelimnary Journal for September issue
  301. 2002-10-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Demo Today - Expect the Press
  302. 2002-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [learn] NO PERL CLASS TODAY]
  303. 2002-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Cut Credit Card Debt - No Loan !
  304. 2002-10-23 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Demo Publicity post mortem
  305. 2002-10-23 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] CUNY and Queens Business Partners
  306. 2002-10-23 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Recent spam
  307. 2002-10-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] we have some competition...
  308. 2002-10-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] we have some competition...
  309. 2002-10-23 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] we have some competition...
  310. 2002-10-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] alert- congress tries to ban gpl in fed funded software
  311. 2002-10-23 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> RE: [hangout] alert- congress tries to ban gpl in fed funded software
  312. 2002-10-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] alert- congress tries to ban gpl in fed funded soft ware
  313. 2002-10-23 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Washington State Congressman attempts to outlaw GPL
  314. 2002-10-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Mac OS X under the hood class
  315. 2002-10-23 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [hangout] alert- congress tries to ban gpl in fed funded software
  316. 2002-10-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Congratulations to all NYLXSers!
  317. 2002-10-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Looking for Ruben (Whats going on with the mail list?)
  318. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Looking for Ruben (Whats going on with the mail list?)
  319. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  320. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election [Ross.Patterson-at-catchfs.com]
  321. 2002-10-24 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Band Can't Sell Own Music on EBay
  322. 2002-10-24 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Mac OS X under the hood class
  323. 2002-10-24 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  324. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  325. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  326. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Feast
  327. 2002-10-24 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Free speech squeezed by copyrights?
  328. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Our Second Demo/Thanks Everyone
  329. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Band Can't Sell Own Music on EBay
  330. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free speech squeezed by copyrights?
  331. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Members addresses
  332. 2002-10-24 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Board Members addresses
  333. 2002-10-24 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Non profit Potential project
  334. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Non profit Potential project
  335. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Members addresses
  336. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  337. 2002-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Network Meeting - 12 No on in Midtown
  338. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  339. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  340. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  341. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] R&M Confference Room
  342. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  343. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  344. 2002-10-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Tonight on IRC
  345. 2002-10-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] HTPC Hardware
  346. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] Merck & Co. seeks RedHat Linux Administrator
  347. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  348. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYC Workforce Training Provider Unit Contact Information (WTPL) [cmorris-at-doe.nyc.gov]
  349. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] dd correct for copying an iso image to hard disk?
  350. 2002-10-31 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  351. 2002-10-31 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> RE: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  352. 2002-10-31 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  353. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  354. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  355. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  356. 2002-10-31 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  357. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  358. 2002-10-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  359. 2002-10-31 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  360. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  361. 2002-10-31 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] More Linux PC's
  362. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New SuSE Linux OS to run Office 2000, other Windows apps
  363. 2002-10-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New SuSE Linux OS to run Office 2000, other Windows apps
  364. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Libral Arts and Computers
  365. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] user nobody
  366. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] user nobody
  367. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] Supported Distributions [draht-at-suse.de]
  368. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] user nobody
  369. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux, USB and MotherBoards
  370. 2002-10-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux, USB and MotherBoards
  371. 2002-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux, USB and MotherBoards
  372. 2002-10-30 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux, USB and MotherBoards
  373. 2002-10-30 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Javits Expo
  374. 2002-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Javits Expo
  375. 2002-10-30 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Javits Expo
  376. 2002-10-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Javits Expo
  377. 2002-10-30 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Javits Expo
  378. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [nylug-talk] Nerds without CS degrees unite!]
  379. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] what are the email addresses of orgs for spam and virii?
  380. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] It was supposed to make everything look the same
  381. 2002-10-29 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] It was supposed to make everything look the same
  382. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] It was supposed to make everything look the same
  383. 2002-10-29 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  384. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tzedik
  385. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows Spam Vulnerability
  386. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Schools Project
  387. 2002-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Proticals of Ziob
  388. 2002-10-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Thurday Nite?
  389. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Installfest
  390. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WE NEED EDITORS
  391. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Installfest
  392. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PR for Installfest
  393. 2002-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo Post Mortom/Board Meeting
  394. 2002-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video Broadcasting and KIOSKS
  395. 2002-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  396. 2002-10-28 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> RE: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  397. 2002-10-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  398. 2002-10-28 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  399. 2002-10-28 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  400. 2002-10-28 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  401. 2002-10-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  402. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Invoice for Services Rendered
  403. 2002-10-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Is Microsoft Licensing Forcing Banks to Break The Law?
  404. 2002-10-28 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] HTPC hardware
  405. 2002-10-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New NY Fair Use Front Page Design
  406. 2002-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: All Day 16 November 2002 Wynn Data Limited Class: Mac OS X Under The Hood
  407. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] looking for a tech consulting group
  408. 2002-10-25 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Expo at the Javitz Center
  409. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Expo at the Javitz Center
  410. 2002-10-25 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Looking for...
  411. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  412. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  413. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  414. 2002-10-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  415. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Looking for...
  416. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  417. 2002-10-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: NYLXS Trade mark [humphusa-at-netscape.net]
  418. 2002-10-25 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: irc issue
  419. 2002-10-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Congress Members Oppose GPL -- Tom Davis election
  420. 2002-10-31 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Suse 8.0 disks for installfest
  421. 2002-10-31 vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] dd correct for copying an iso image to hard disk?

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