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| DATE | 2002-08-19 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
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It beats trhe shit out of Access and HAS never corrupted on my over 6 years of heavey application
use.
NuSphere straight up tried to steal their trade mark.
And what 'feature' is it missing? A Visual BAsic API?
This is really not negotiable.
Without a MYSQL and or Postgres interface, preferably both,
it's JUST NOT WHAT PEOPLE NEED (caps for emphasis not yelling)
On 2002.08.20 00:49 Justin Clift wrote:
> Hi Ruben,
>
> Ruben I Safir wrote:
> >
> > You need to rethink it.
> >
> > MySQL and Postgres is the only real acceptable answers
>
> Heh Heh Heh
>
> Like, you'd recommend a database to people which is extremely optimised
> for read-only situations, has a reputation for corrupting itself, and
> doesn't even support most stuff which people will need if their
> application starts to become significant in their enterprise?
>
> MySQL is a very good *website* database. It's *not* an *application*
> database. There *is* a difference.
>
> > I would not install any other database servers on any system.
> >
> > MYSQL is the easiest choice to make and you should find a way
> > to make this happen.
>
> It's only an *easy* choice if you're really familiar with just it and
> not the other possibilities.
>
> People that are familiar with MySQL *and* other databases might not
> recommend it so fast. (i.e. NuSphere just for starters)
>
> > I would be happy to be an intermediary between Monty and You.
>
> Of course. Monty would *love* you to get MySQL officially into
> OpenOffice, and thereby secure a *huge* automatic userbase for MySQL...
> pity that it can't actually do what people will need from here and into
> the future, let along scale up to department sized loads, etc. And if
> you want to then migrate to a more powerful database server, such as
> Oracle, DB2, Sybase, expect them to be massively inefficient until you
> re-write your application. They do things efficiently in 1 SQL query
> which MySQL requires 4+ for, because it doesn't know how to do SQL very
> well.
>
> > Also, this idea that every machine has to have the local database server is
> > an error. As for resources, if it's on a W2K machine (it's almost funny talking
> > about resource issues with Open Office being HOG - oink Oink), run it in single
> > mode.
> >
> > Part of NYLXS's evaluation of Open Office is specifically it's ability to
> > integrate with MYSQL easily.
>
> Good. It's called ODBC, JDBC, etc, same as the rest of us without
> native drivers at present have.
>
> > Because of the install base alone, this is a facts on the ground decision.
>
> The majority of people who need a database on a website don't need
> transactions, subselects, an system optimised for scalability, etc.
> They need a database which "does the job" for their website.
>
> A *business* person or a *home user*, needs a database which is capable
> of all kind of things.
>
> MySQL is *not* going to be packaged along with OOo. There are enough
> *experienced* DBA's around to be able to explain to you in *depth* why
> if you really, really, really, really want, but the people here have
> been through this before.
>
> Regards and best wishes,
>
> Justin Clift
>
>
> > Ruben
>
>
>
> --
> "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
> who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
> first group; there was less competition there."
> - Indira Gandhi
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