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| DATE | 2002-08-16 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
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The raped DLL's is the same problem
Widows is just like installing everything with nodpes.
Also, this is RH 62. How many apps from win3.1 screw up Win95
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Ray Connolly wrote:
> really? how recently? i've used it since '98 and it's so easy to just click
> on a install file and, viola, it's up and runnng. No dependency problems
> (althoug raped dlls can fuck you for ages after). I happened to be
> enlightened enough, like our mates here, to know the ethical and
> philisophical problems with the MS world. BUT, as is obvious by our
> struggle, the asses known as the masses don't know or care. They WANT click
> and run.
> I think if there was a standard way of installing apps with EASE, it would
> help migration greatly. Unfortunately it is much easier said than done but i
> think the Linux Standards Group is a start towards this.
>
> Just thinkng outloud.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: Ray Connolly
> Cc: 'Ruben Safir'; 'nylxs'
> Subject: Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
>
>
> Actually
>
> Until recently, this was a typical windows problem
>
>
> Ruben
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 07:47:03AM -0400, Ray Connolly wrote:
> > Imagine a Windowed person running into this early in their foray into
> > gnu/linux. It would be enough to make them run right into Bill's arms
> > forever.
> > What is a viable solution for mess' like this easy enough for a newbie to
> > handle?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:24 PM
> > To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
> > Subject: [hangout] RPM HELL
> >
> >
> >
> > I almost always install all apache stuff by hand, but decided to go with
> the
> > Redhat RPM
> > systems for our 2 year old 6.2 VA Server.
> >
> > So I decided, OK, I'm impressed enough with PHPGROUPWARE to give it a try.
> >
> > Auch.
> >
> >
> > RPM's SUCK RPM's SUCK RPM's SUCK, and so does the debian shit.
> >
> > First, I discovered that Postreg needs to be at least version 7 for
> > PHPGROUPWARE. Guess what, no 6.2 pgsql 7 version for Redhat 6.2.
> >
> > So I uninstall postgres and instead install by hand postgres 7. whatever.
> >
> > PHPgroupware STILL doesn't work. Seems to not want to connect to the
> > database...
> >
> > Fooey
> >
> >
> > PHP is not built with database support. grrr
> >
> > So now I search the web and find a fix for the RPM's source file.
> >
> > IT DOESN'T freaken compile. It's missing a half dozen RPM packages (which
> I
> > thnk it isn't)
> > and one of them is POSTGRES.
> >
> > Damn
> >
> > So now I need to compile PHP by hand and find out the locations for the
> ldap
> > librairies, postress
> > libraies and where everything for apache, which is all over the damn hard
> > drive.
> >
> > I mean, I could just as well build the whole damn system again by hand.
> WHo
> > needs Red Hat.
> >
> > This is the kind of thing that makes Redhat want to make me puke.
> >
> >
> > I have to walk accross the har drive now and figure out where half a dozen
> > subsystems are
> > built.
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
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