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| DATE | 2002-08-16 |
| FROM | Kevin Milani
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
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I have had similar issues with Red Hat and when I started to explore the
alternatives I absolutely fell in love (figuratively speaking) with
Suse. I really like that the Suse installation puts everything where you
and the application developer expect things to go. Also, starting MySQL
and PostgreSQL was much easier from Suse. I gave up trying to get MySQL
and other applications running on Red Hat when I was a newbie...I still
am somewhat of a newbie and have no interest in using something that is
hard to configure out of the box and which requires immense amounts of
troubleshooting.
I have multiple linux boxes and the only one running Red Hat is my
laptop because they had a nice little utility for setting up the
Wireless card.
With regards to PHPGroupware, I applaud Ruben for attempting to run it.
I hope that he finds success in completing the install and getting it
running because it really is a great application. It saddens me that
the installation had to be so difficult and really does make me wonder
how converts from the Windows world could ever be won when Linux can be
so difficult at times and require such in-depth knowledge to debug. On
the plus side, if you have the knowledge anything is possible!!
Ray Connolly wrote:
>Imagine a Windowed person running into this early in their foray into
>gnu/linux. It would be enough to make them run right into Bill's arms
>forever.
>What is a viable solution for mess' like this easy enough for a newbie to
>handle?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 6:24 PM
>To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
>Subject: [hangout] RPM HELL
>
>
>
>I almost always install all apache stuff by hand, but decided to go with the
>Redhat RPM
>systems for our 2 year old 6.2 VA Server.
>
>So I decided, OK, I'm impressed enough with PHPGROUPWARE to give it a try.
>
>Auch.
>
>
>RPM's SUCK RPM's SUCK RPM's SUCK, and so does the debian shit.
>
>First, I discovered that Postreg needs to be at least version 7 for
>PHPGROUPWARE. Guess what, no 6.2 pgsql 7 version for Redhat 6.2.
>
>So I uninstall postgres and instead install by hand postgres 7. whatever.
>
>PHPgroupware STILL doesn't work. Seems to not want to connect to the
>database...
>
>Fooey
>
>
>PHP is not built with database support. grrr
>
>So now I search the web and find a fix for the RPM's source file.
>
>IT DOESN'T freaken compile. It's missing a half dozen RPM packages (which I
>thnk it isn't)
>and one of them is POSTGRES.
>
>Damn
>
>So now I need to compile PHP by hand and find out the locations for the ldap
>librairies, postress
>libraies and where everything for apache, which is all over the damn hard
>drive.
>
>I mean, I could just as well build the whole damn system again by hand. WHo
>needs Red Hat.
>
>This is the kind of thing that makes Redhat want to make me puke.
>
>
>I have to walk accross the har drive now and figure out where half a dozen
>subsystems are
>built.
>
>
>Ruben
>
>
>
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