MESSAGE
| DATE | 2002-08-16 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
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Don't ask me.
On 2002.08.16 14:22 Eric R wrote:
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> On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 11:11:48AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >
> > OK
> >
> > This is interesting because it's on AP.
> >
> > Too bad they're using the term Open Source
> >
> >
> > But here is the most important thing to observe.
> >
> > Notice the language used by Microsoft's pet Lobby
> >
> > "The bill would stifle inovation in corperate America"
> >
> > See - this is a word game, and we have to play this out
> > correctly.
> >
> > <> > revolution. Can we have any doubt that in the future nearly all music,
> > literature and works of non-fiction will by available mostly through
> > digital means? Under these conditions, can there be any doubt that our
> > ability to reuse the cultural materials all around us will be badly
> > impaired if we continue to be dependent on software models designed
> > to exploit us? How severely impaired will our means of creating new
> > material be? How suppressed will be our economic growth? Econocmic growth
> > is dependent on invention and creativity. We must protect our freedom to
> > innovate. We must protect the rights of others to utilize our innovations.
> > We must protect the rights of others to improve on our innovations.>>
> >
> >
> > <> > prosperity, and security for all the peoples of the world. Only through
> > the freedom to associate, to come together and collaborate in solving
> > our problems can we hope to assure that these wonderful tools which we
> > use for our expression, our industry, and our education, continue to
> > remain as free as our press and our governments.>>
> >
> >
> > <> > is to assure the creation of the widest possible tent. We welcome all
> > individuals to participate with Free Software. We welcome them to code,
> > and to use Free Software to enrich their lives.>>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 10:47:22AM -0400, Ray Connolly wrote:
> > >
> > > Computer Programmers Rally for Bill
> > >
> > > By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
> > > Filed at 7:22 p.m. ET
> > > August 15, 2002
> > >
> > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Comparing their cause to America's fight for
> > > independence from England, computer programmers rallied Thursday to support
> > > a proposal that would require the state of California to purchase more
> > > open-source software.
> > >
> > > Michael Tiemann, chief technology officer for Raleigh, N.C.-based software
> > > company Red Hat, led about 30 protesters from the Linux World Conference &
> > > Expo to a podium outside City Hall. He urged politicians to adopt the
> > > Digital Software Security Act, a month-old proposal gaining support among
> > > hackers, civil libertarians and people opposed to Microsoft's dominance of
> > > the global software industry.
> > >
> > > ``Government and monopolists want to take away our right to write software
> > > and use computers as we want to use them,'' Tiemann said to marchers, mainly
> > > shaggy-haired men in T-shirts and jeans. ``Open source is the true spirit of
> > > democracy, and we must preserve it.''
> > >
> > > The proposal would require California state agencies to use open-source
> > > software such as the Linux operating system as an alternative to proprietary
> > > software such as Microsoft Windows. Tiemann and several other open-source
> > > enthusiasts wrote the proposal and published it online, but they're asking
> > > programmers around the world to suggest changes.
> > >
> > > Open-source programs can be downloaded from the Internet for free, and they
> > > don't require users to pay licensing fees. Installing Linux on servers has
> > > saved Amazon.com, 7-Eleven, Deutsche Telekom, the Chinese government and
> > > other groups millions of dollars.
> > >
> > > Mainly because of the reduced cost, government agencies and corporations
> > > around the world are switching to open-source software to run databases and
> > > manage e-mail. According to research firm A.D.H. Brown Associates, about 20
> > > million people are using the Linux operating system, the most popular
> > > example of open-source software.
> > >
> > > But the Computing Technology Industry Association blasted the notion that
> > > California adopt an open-source approach. The Washington-based trade group
> > > said the proposal would stifle innovation in corporate America and cause
> > > ``unintended repercussions for California, its (information technology)
> > > industry and its citizens.''
> > >
> > > A Microsoft spokesman refused to comment on the bill but said the world's
> > > largest software company supported the CTIA's position.
> > >
> > > Microsoft's snubbing didn't surprise protesters. Many worried that Microsoft
> > > could extend its dominance in operating systems and Internet browsers to
> > > gain access to personal data stored on computers, including passwords or
> > > financial information. They feared digital privacy bills introduced earlier
> > > this year, including one to put government-mandated anti-copying mechanisms
> > > in consumer electronic devices.
> > >
> > > ``They're all in cahoots -- Microsoft, the government, corporate America,''
> > > said protester Mike Collins, 48, a computer consultant in Austin, Texas, who
> > > sported a tattoo of the Linux penguin logo on his calf. ``We are at a
> > > pivotal point. We need open source now more than ever.''
> > >
> > > But the rally's sparse attendance may underscore challenges facing the
> > > proposal. Only about 30 of the 15,000 Linux World attendants marched to City
> > > Hall. Open-source enthusiasts are known for their libertarianism and disdain
> > > for politics.
> > >
> > > ``Programmers are more comfortable in front of a keyboard, not at a
> > > podium,'' said Raj Nagra, 33, a network specialist who supports the proposal
> > > because he's seen significant cost savings after installing Linux-based
> > > systems for the city of Fresno. ``They'll submit code and maybe they'll send
> > > a check to support their cause, but they probably won't take their cause to
> > > the streets.''
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> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > __________________________
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> > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-5752
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