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| DATE | 2002-07-25 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] linux and macs...
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It's not meaningless hyperbole.
You just don't understand Free Software.
That doesn't make it meaningless, it does mean
that if they use Free Software, the don't have
this redicules problem with sendmail which is a
making of the NON-FREE platform AND bug reports
can be sent to the developer...directly, or to
a mailing list without having to depend on APPLE
who is NOTORIUSLY bad at tech support.
Just USE the Free OS and stop wasting time...
I mean, Jesus, when are they going to fix that dumb
interface where the controls are sprawled out across the
screen. Does Steve Jobs think we only run one application at a time.
Why not have the controlls just sent to the back of the screen
Hey that would be intutitive.
I was using Netscape for 2 hours a few days ago trying to figure out why it was
broken until Bret pointed out that it's NOT NETSCAPE, but APPLE which was broken.
This kind of stuff only happens with closed systems.
Ruben
On 2002.07.25 21:52 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> It says nothing of the kind, it simply says that you would prefer to
> waste my time with meaningless hyperbole than advance an argument with
> actual substance,
> - Jordan
>
> On Thursday, Jul 25, 2002, at 18:43 US/Pacific, Ruben I Safir wrote:
>
> > Which says evrything about why one MUST use a superior
> > Free OS rather than an inferior and un-intuitive
> > closed system.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> > On 2002.07.25 21:41 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> >> I don't have time for these sorts of non-responses.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, Jul 25, 2002, at 18:38 US/Pacific, Ruben I Safir wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Rather than dealing with apple front-line tech support (repeat:
> >>>> front-line) which is aimed more at telling mom how to rename her
> >>>> files
> >>>> or log into AOL, probably at least 99% of the calls they receive and
> >>>> hence where their emphasis obviously is going to go, if you find a
> >>>> way
> >>>> to crash the system or otherwise encounter any other sort of issue
> >>>> which your prior Unix experience allows you to identify as a real
> >>>> bug,
> >>>> the way to deal with it is to FILE A BUG REPORT. The form is right
> >>>> here: http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/bugrptform.html
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Nah
> >>>
> >>> Hack the code. Or get rid of the Mac interface since it is not free
> >>> software.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I also have first-hand experience that these bug reports are read
> >>>> and
> >>>> frequently acted on by developers since I've probably fielded at
> >>>> least
> >>>> a couple hundred of them myself, so any reasonably well-crafted bug
> >>>> report (e.g. not "your OS sucks, make it better") that can be
> >>>> reproduced will be handled by an engineer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Uhggg
> >>>
> >>> Like we haven't seen this before. Just wipe it clean and put a Free
> >>> OS
> >>> on it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> As shipped from Apple sendmail will not work because of improper
> >>>>> directory permissions that the system resets to WRONG on every
> >>>>> boot.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as I've explained to Brett before, this is a compromise issue
> >>>> which
> >>>> has no clear solution as of yet.
> >>>
> >>> Yes it does. Make t free and let the use choose.
> >>>
> >>>
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