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DATE | 2002-06-23 |
FROM | Jay Sulzberger
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SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Elfen Magix Reply-To: nyc-g33ks-at-nyc-g33ks.org To: nyc-g33ks-at-nyc-g33ks.org Subject: A Challenge (was: Re: [nyc-g33ks] Ghana's Digital Dilemma and using Linux)
elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com wrote:
<< If you really want to know- my "friend" uses old Mac laptops and 9"B/W Macs for the students and a 500Powerbook with AIMS/EIMS (Apple/Eudora Internet Mail Server). Its simple, AppleTalk Network works with nearly zero maintenence, and its been working there since 1994. Before then, she went around with piles of paper and typed/printed everything when she got to the university and back to the schools to give out the print outs. To have done so with Windows or Linux/Unix on an iX86 at that time frame, ZERO Cash for hardware/software, and with only trashed equipment, would have been impossible. It still maybe impossible by today's standards. >> -----------------------------------------------------
Lets put some talent where our mouths are. Write a proposal to the UN to give 1 poor nation a yet to be determained number of systems, and then do it. Best to target schools and children facilities (hospitals, orphanages, etc) of that nation.
Options are: 1) Types of systems: -25% Linux/Unix (maybe some as set up servers) -25% Mac OS (maybe some as set up servers) -50% Windows 95/98. (maybe some as set up NT servers)
2) Other "Options" -Networking Hardware: hubs, wires, nics, etc. -Software: Office, Graphics and Internet. -Printers (1 for every 10 systems...)
3) Spare parts and insrtuctions...
4) Cost to us: -Time to set them up, repair if not working, and it must survive sitting down 3 months in a hot cargo box while being shipped (most hard drives wont unless in an insulated box, which adds bulk). -Parts and systems; since none of us have not won the lottery (yet), that means its going to be stuff that we can srounge, beg, steal, or otherwise pernamently barrow. If some of us can get a donation- then so be it. More for the program. We'll need everything from the smallest case screws to the largest case fittings and everything inbetween. Cables are a must! -Work and storage place. Here's part of the problem, where to store the stuff, where to work and assemble these things. -Printing: we may only have 1 manual to go to many places, so we're going to need to copy that manual. -Emergency provisions: what to send along with the system in case its hard drive DOA's on them? Floppies? CDs? both? An extra Hard drive with minor tools and instrcutions? -Boxing: One trick I've learned it to box the system with clothing, which means more things that they may need will be given. Most places will not accept styrofoam for ecological reasons, but clothes, yes. But they must be clean and washed before being used. Many stores will give away large appliance boxes just for the asking. -Cleaning (the systems): they must look as good as new. That means cleaning/disinfecting cases, keyboards and monitors, whinch in some cases must be taken apart. I find Fantastik, amonia or bleach to work on most things, but in the end an alcohol rub down eliminates finger prints, stains, and other problems.
There's a lot to consider, but if we can do it once, the noterity the group needs can be gotten. But everything must work when they put it together over there- that the important part. To start, I propose we do 50 units... or shall it be left to a Geek Dinner to decide? We can even discuss embargo laws, and how to deal with them.
To me, its no skin off my back, since I average 120 machines per shipment to Lithuania, and 30+ to others here and there.
Take Care All...
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