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DATE 2002-05-08
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Re: proofed commentary

OK Here it is improved a bit...I changed the description of the ATM
propaganda war and clearified the property robbery analogy



I feel like I'm missing some parts of this conversation, but instead of
answering every subparagraph of this conversation, let me just try to
focus on a few doable points, and how I think we need to proceed.

It's now early in the morning and I just came home from a NY Fair Use
meeting and we have been actually discussing this, in detail, over the
last few hours.

First, let's look at the threat that the Holling's Bill and the DMCA
present to Free Software. Even under the DMCA, if the major manufacturers
chose to end free software, they can simply do so by running encryption on
any copyrighted part of the system, especially, the system BIOS. Simply,
the machines can be constructed in such a way that booting into anything
other than an approved Operating System would be a felony under the DMCA.
If you listen to the DMCA fair use exemption hearings at the Library Of
Congress, this becomes clear. It is just a matter of time before this
is implemented. Such is the nature of the world. For example, when
ATM machines first came out, banks begged people to use them instead of
tellers because of the cost savings. Immediately the issue came up: would
such a service be charged for. Initially, they did not charge for the
service. Once ATM's use became commonplace, to the point that the public
now *relied* on them and banks repreately claim them as a special service, rather
than a cost savings method, they had paved the way to charge a fee per use.
Eventually it happened, over time. And today, it's nearly impossible to
use an ATM, or the bank for that matter, without these additional fees.

The same will happen with copyrighted BIOS'. Today, the public would be
outraged if Microsoft and Intel prevented other OS's from being installed
on a system. But already Microsoft is re-educating the public about the
property rights of their PC, and making claims that only their OS is
authorized on machines (one can refer to the recent flap about schools
accepting donated systems at:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/04/18/1623240&mode=thread or
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html

for further detail). Microsoft is moving rapidly to a model of "OS
assurance" and "Automatic upgrades" in the name of security and content
management protection. The Holling's bills, by whatever name they are this
week, are legal enforcement mandating the worse case scenario of the DMCA.
It will end Free Software the moment it is passed because it demands
secret control of your system to protect copyright monopoly franchises.
Free Software can't be secret...

So the issue is, now that these bills, and other legislative and
regulatory activities, are removing the basic property rights and free
speech rights of PC owners, what do we do? Strangely enough, we MUST stop
chasing out tail. We tend to respond (ineffectively I might add) to one
ruling and bill after the next. We must also broaden our constituency.

Tony pointed out, quite correctly, that the Holling's bill is ultimately
a starting point of for re-education of the public and a negotiating
point for the assault on the 4th and 1st amendments. As I can see it,
the courts are not prepared to uphold the public's interest in the face
of legislation that promotes wiretapping and property damage to privately
owned computers with regard to monopoly franchises (ie: Copyright). We need
to go on the offensive and turn the tables. We need to control the language
used in the debate on these issues. We need to proactively present
bills that redefine Copyright in statutory law. For one thing, we need
to always publicly say, that when a law is passed which prevents
your full enjoyment of information legally acquired through purchase
or borrowing that this is the same as straling. We must explain it, in
clear and simple terms. We need to say that these reguations and business
activities are as if someone knocked down your door and stole your
computer, music and books. We need to say it immediately, constant and
often, because this is JUST what Adobe and Time-Warner said accessing a
DVD on GNU/Linux does. They literally say we're stealing. So we need to
turn it around and point out that if someone does actually break into your
house and steal all your DVD's that the individual calls the cops and reports
the theft, not Time-Warner.

In addition, we need to introduce a new bill that will protect fair use
and property rights. The bill, if crafted correctly, will fortify the
courts in protecting individuals against 4th amendment abuses, defuse
the DMCA and end a whole slew of unethical activities by the executive
branch of government, and Congress.

Jeanne Thewell, who is someone I would trust my life with,
is a lawyer working with NY Fair Use to draft such a bill
(thelwell-at-mindspring.com). The broad outline of the bill is as follows...

The legislation to be drafted will accomplish the following main stream
objectives which all reasonable people can expect:

-All copyrights to individual scores, writings, and recordings will be
returned to the original artist after a period of 10 years.

-No technology can be deployed which spies on, wiretaps or discloses
privately owned information which is stored on digital devices by
any government agency or private 3rd party without the issuance of a
publicly pronounced and disclosed warrant limited to a specific criminal
investigation.

-All copyright cases must prove, prior to a judgment of guilt, proof
that the actions in question did not infringe on Fair Use, and the
individuals rights under the 4th and 1st amendment of the Bill of rights
US Constitution.

-Ownership of all physical media, and devices to read such media, is
the sole property of the purchaser of the media, without an expressly
negotiated and signed contract between both the copyright holder and
the purchaser.

-No technological software or hardware method can be deployed in a digital
product and made available for normal retail sale which inhibits, in any
way, the full enjoyment of the property by the purchasers, regardless of
any agreement between the designer of the hardware or software products.
Such agreements are null, and not contractible.

-Copyright is an exception to Fair Use as it limits the ability for
individuals to enjoy their private property and express themselves with
the use of such copyrighted materials. Fair Use is a doctrine to be
based on the 4th and 1st amendments of the US Constitution.

-Individuals have the right to express themselves to others about the
means, mechanism and workings of all digital devices, including but not
limited to, discussion on how to make fair use of media, how to improve
such devices, or to reverse engineer all such devices and the algorithms
which are used to help them display, copy or run media.

We need to get as many big guns on this as possible and then relentlessly
campaign, actively working to elect supporters and vote out incumbent
opposition. In fact, we should look to defeat, not just the proposed
spyware legislation, but also defeat Senator Hollings

WE CAN force him from office, because he's a radical.

Finally, the issue of developing friends and allies. Specifically, they
have to be cultivated. Boucher is not powerful by himself, but if we
get Weiner to become vocal on this issue as well, we WILL turn the tied,
especially since Weiner was Chuck Schumer's chief of staff. Right now,
we need to find him, wherever he speaks, and ask him about this issue,
over and over again.

ALL POLITICS is LOCAL.

I'd love to expand on how to target a congressman. It's got to be
done like Tammany Hall, machine politics, in the neighborhoods, and
focusing on not only software, but the effects on education, libraries
and wiretapping!

~Ruben

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  100. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] new flyer
  101. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] new flyer
  102. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: dhcp/dhcp-server (SuSE-SA:2002:019) (fwd)
  103. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: dhcp/dhcp-server (SuSE-SA:2002:019) (fwd)
  104. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux install on a Sony Vaio
  105. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux install on a Sony Vaio
  106. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  107. 2002-05-22 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY details for Friday
  108. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] GAR State Management System
  109. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 24 May 2002 NYLXS CUNY Demo
  110. 2002-05-22 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Friday 24 May 2002 NYLXS CUNY Demo
  111. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: new flyer
  112. 2002-05-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: new flyer
  113. 2002-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] new flyer
  114. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  115. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  116. 2002-05-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The meeting at the Rose went well
  117. 2002-05-21 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] questionnaire for cuny demo
  118. 2002-05-21 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] The meeting at the Rose went well
  119. 2002-05-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  120. 2002-05-21 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] What's the address of Killarny Rose?
  121. 2002-05-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture for Asha Space
  122. 2002-05-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture for Asha Space
  123. 2002-05-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  124. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  125. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  126. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  127. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  128. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Free Software Small Business and Government Demonstration [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  129. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  130. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  131. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  132. 2002-05-20 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  133. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  134. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  135. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  136. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Letter to Mr. Brown (CUNY demo)
  137. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  138. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  139. 2002-05-20 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  140. 2002-05-20 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  141. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  142. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  143. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl Classes
  144. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl Classes
  145. 2002-05-20 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  146. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: CUNY CUNY CUNY II [marco4linux-at-earthlink.net]
  147. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: CUNY CUNY CUNY II [marco4linux-at-earthlink.net]
  148. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CUNY CUNY CUNY
  149. 2002-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Final Base Touch CUNY Demo
  150. 2002-05-20 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Posting CUNY event
  151. 2002-05-20 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Posting CUNY event
  152. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Bill (fwd)
  153. 2002-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 2
  154. 2002-05-20 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 22 May 2002 Panel on Eldred v. Ashcroft and the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act
  155. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DMCA
  156. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class (fwd)
  157. 2002-05-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [learn] Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class (fwd)
  158. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  159. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  160. 2002-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 2 Class
  161. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Furniture delivery for NYLXS
  162. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  163. 2002-05-17 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  164. 2002-05-17 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Slashdot: Migrating Your Office from Windows to Linux?
  165. 2002-05-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  166. 2002-05-17 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Furniture for Asha Space
  167. 2002-05-17 From: "Juan Gonzalez" <juang-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  168. 2002-05-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  169. 2002-05-16 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  170. 2002-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  171. 2002-05-16 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Call to all CUNY demo participants.
  172. 2002-05-16 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  173. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  174. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Classrom Space:
  175. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Classrom Space:
  176. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Meeting CUNY Demo
  177. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Critical May 15th IE security patch [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  178. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Critical May 15th IE security patch [biteme-at-spamcop.net]
  179. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DEMO
  180. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DEMO
  181. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DEMO
  182. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] DEMO
  183. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  184. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  185. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  186. 2002-05-16 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo
  187. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  188. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  189. 2002-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  190. 2002-05-15 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [hangout] Moglen webcast
  191. 2002-05-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  192. 2002-05-15 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  193. 2002-05-15 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [hangout] Proposed banner for NYLXS
  194. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  195. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who is going to NYLUG tonite?
  196. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: A good vertical [pnichols-at-brave.net]
  197. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: A good vertical [pnichols-at-brave.net]
  198. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Proposed banner for NYLXS
  199. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Promoting NYLXS
  200. 2002-05-15 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Subject: [hangout] Promoting NYLXS
  201. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  202. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  203. 2002-05-15 jonathan-at-airbatic.com Re: [hangout] Easy to administer FTP application?
  204. 2002-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: OFF LIST Re: [nylxs-announce] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  205. 2002-05-15 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  206. 2002-05-15 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  207. 2002-05-15 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  208. 2002-05-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlnk.net> Subject: [hangout] Stallman mentions NYLXS at Moglen talk at nyu
  209. 2002-05-14 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  210. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  211. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  212. 2002-05-14 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [fairuse-discuss] Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  213. 2002-05-14 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] RH 7.3 and Orinoco
  214. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  215. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  216. 2002-05-14 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [hangout] Pact Reached to Stop Pirating Of Digital TV Over the Internet (fwd)
  217. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Sublease agreement [Bcpnyc-at-aol.com]
  218. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  219. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  220. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  221. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nycwireless] RH 7.3 and Orinoco
  222. 2002-05-14 Brendan Tween <btween-at-cossettepost.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital "Rights"
  223. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 110 Wall Street
  224. 2002-05-14 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] OT - hardware repair
  225. 2002-05-14 From: "William Brent" <wbrent-at-finepoint.com> Subject: [hangout] OT - hardware repair
  226. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  227. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Marco Conti
  228. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  229. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  230. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  231. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  232. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: Sublease Agreement
  233. 2002-05-14 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  234. 2002-05-14 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Please add my phpGroupware Demo to the list
  235. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Video
  236. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  237. 2002-05-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  238. 2002-05-14 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  239. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  240. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  241. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> FW: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  242. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  243. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  244. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  245. 2002-05-14 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  246. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  247. 2002-05-14 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] minutes from may 5th
  248. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 Class
  249. 2002-05-14 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] scheduled demo
  250. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  251. 2002-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] scheduled demo
  252. 2002-05-14 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] last night
  253. 2002-05-14 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Membership Drive
  254. 2002-05-14 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 15 May 2002 NYLUG: Len Santalucia on Linux in the Marketplace
  255. 2002-05-13 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] scheduled demo
  256. 2002-05-13 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Unix 1 Upcoming Class -> May 15th
  257. 2002-05-13 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS announcements
  258. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  259. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linux Education continued
  260. 2002-05-13 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY DEMO
  261. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 and Perl 2 Class
  262. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 and Perl 2 Class
  263. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLasses and PR
  264. 2002-05-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CLasses and PR
  265. 2002-05-31 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Summer Session
  266. 2002-05-11 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow
  267. 2002-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow (fwd)
  268. 2002-05-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers For Tomorrow (fwd)
  269. 2002-05-11 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Heard of SEUL.ORG?
  270. 2002-05-10 dustin perun <perun242-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] The worse use of PHP I ever saw...
  271. 2002-05-10 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers: Call for help.
  272. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  273. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  274. 2002-05-10 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Space in Woodside, Queens
  275. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] price of linux training
  276. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] price of linux training
  277. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] price of linux training
  278. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The worse use of PHP I ever saw...
  279. 2002-05-10 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] classes calendar
  280. 2002-05-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Membership Meeting
  281. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  282. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  283. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Sorry forgot to attach
  284. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Sorry forgot to attach
  285. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  286. 2002-05-10 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Flyer
  287. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Content Control and Boucher (fwd)
  288. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who is the teacher of the GNU/Linux One Class
  289. 2002-05-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Who is the teacher of the GNU/Linux One Class
  290. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  291. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  292. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] OT: Fw: Brooklyn Jr. High School needs volunteer graphic design help [soei-at-sovisual.com]
  293. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] OT: Fw: Brooklyn Jr. High School needs volunteer graphic design help [soei-at-sovisual.com]
  294. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  295. 2002-05-09 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  296. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Journal Deadline
  297. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  298. 2002-05-09 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: NYC -- Perl 1/Perl 2 class --> May 13th
  299. 2002-05-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  300. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  301. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org: Fwd: Boucher: Pro- ContentControl]
  302. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: Membership committee
  303. 2002-05-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  304. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Membership committee
  305. 2002-05-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  306. 2002-05-09 Vin <a1enviro-at-cloud9.net> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  307. 2002-05-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Documents and Audiences
  308. 2002-05-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] FW: [Problhangout] em with mouse and gui
  309. 2002-05-09 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  310. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] audio equipment for radio show
  311. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] edited commentary
  312. 2002-05-08 jonathan <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] edited commentary
  313. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: edited commentary
  314. 2002-05-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: edited comentary
  315. 2002-05-08 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Calendar
  316. 2002-05-08 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Calendar
  317. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: proofed commentary
  318. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: proofed commentary
  319. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  320. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout]
  321. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  322. 2002-05-08 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout]
  323. 2002-05-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  324. 2002-05-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  325. 2002-05-08 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  326. 2002-05-08 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  327. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  328. 2002-05-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Content Control and Boucher
  329. 2002-05-07 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  330. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Problem with mouse and gui
  331. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Space in Woodside, Queens
  332. 2002-05-07 From: "David Sugar" <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  333. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  334. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  335. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  336. 2002-05-07 Daniel Stringfield <dstringfield-at-arsenaldigital.com> RE: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  337. 2002-05-07 Daniel Stringfield <dstringfield-at-arsenaldigital.com> RE: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  338. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  339. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  340. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  341. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  342. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  343. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  344. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] php license
  345. 2002-05-07 Eric R <ericr-at-yankthechain.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  346. 2002-05-07 Eric R <ericr-at-yankthechain.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  347. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] 110 Wall space
  348. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Compulsory Windows: for Macs, and people without PCs?
  349. 2002-05-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Compulsory Windows: for Macs, and people without PCs?
  350. 2002-05-07 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] php license
  351. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Feast in the East Village
  352. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  353. 2002-05-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Attention Education Committee
  354. 2002-05-07 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] php license
  355. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Fw: Re: Address for submitting community events?
  356. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR Committee
  357. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR committee
  358. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] PR committee
  359. 2002-05-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  360. 2002-05-07 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  361. 2002-05-07 From: "Brendan W. McAdms" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] php license
  362. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] StarOffice to eat MS share (probably)
  363. 2002-05-07 a1enviro-at-cloud9.net Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 8.2 first look
  364. 2002-05-07 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [hangout] php license
  365. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] php license
  366. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PR Tool
  367. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] monday meeting
  368. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] monday meeting
  369. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] monday meeting
  370. 2002-05-06 hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: Your Linux PR newsletter for May 6, 2002
  371. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: [nylug-talk] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo]
  372. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: RE: [nylug-talk] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo]
  373. 2002-05-06 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo
  374. 2002-05-06 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Small Business GNU/Linux Demo
  375. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Borogh Hall
  376. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  377. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  378. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  379. 2002-05-06 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [K12OSN] linux class
  380. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast for Linux 1 class
  381. 2002-05-06 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY
  382. 2002-05-06 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CUNY
  383. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] evolution
  384. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  385. 2002-05-06 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  386. 2002-05-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] evolution
  387. 2002-05-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY
  388. 2002-05-06 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] CUNY
  389. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes
  390. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes
  391. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  392. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday NY Fairuse
  393. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: Space in Tribeca [gil-at-ecommercepartners.net]
  394. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: Space in Tribeca [gil-at-ecommercepartners.net]
  395. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  396. 2002-05-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] *ASTOUNDING* Statement by Peruvian Congressman on Free
  397. 2002-05-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes
  398. 2002-05-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] classes
  399. 2002-05-04 Alan Wiess <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  400. 2002-05-04 Alan Wiess <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  401. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] classes
  402. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] classes
  403. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  404. 2002-05-04 Paul Rodriguez <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Class Scedule
  405. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: Class Room Space for NYLXS]
  406. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: Class Room Space for NYLXS]
  407. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Notes On Sept 11, 2001
  408. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest
  409. 2002-05-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] installfest
  410. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest
  411. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] installfest
  412. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] installfest
  413. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Conference Room
  414. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Conference Room
  415. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse 7.3
  416. 2002-05-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Suse 7.3
  417. 2002-05-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Exchange Linux Replacement Whitepaper
  418. 2002-05-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Exchange Linux Replacement Whitepaper
  419. 2002-05-03 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  420. 2002-05-03 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  421. 2002-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Just Rewards - The NYLXS Team
  422. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  423. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  424. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  425. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  426. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  427. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  428. 2002-05-02 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangretoro-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux1/Unix1 - TEST
  429. 2002-05-02 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo flyer
  430. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  431. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  432. 2002-05-02 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  433. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  434. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  435. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Fw: Re: [nylxs-announce] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  436. 2002-05-02 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY demo confirmed
  437. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY demo confirmed
  438. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] David Sugar Audio File online
  439. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] David Sugar Audio File online
  440. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  441. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002
  442. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Board Meeting 4/29/2002 [jwb235-at-nyu.edu]
  443. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  444. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Semiconductor chip with synaptically connected snail neurons
  445. 2002-05-02 jonathan jacobs <jonathan-at-airbatic.com> Subject: [hangout] slide show
  446. 2002-05-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] "Private" OpenOffice 1.0 mirror for NYLUGers (and everybody else)
  447. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] education committee
  448. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] education committee
  449. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  450. 2002-05-02 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  451. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] differences between platforms
  452. 2002-05-01 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  453. 2002-05-01 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  454. 2002-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  455. 2002-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  456. 2002-05-01 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  457. 2002-05-01 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] radio
  458. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  459. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Javascript [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  460. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] 'Melissa' Virus Maker Gets 20 Months [kika-at-ottostudio.com]
  461. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] 'Melissa' Virus Maker Gets 20 Months [kika-at-ottostudio.com]
  462. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Threat to free software developer
  463. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Threat to free software developer
  464. 2002-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Class Schedule

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