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| DATE | 2002-05-27 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] roadrunner
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Do we want to meet tomorrow or Tonite?
Votes please....
>
> I have linksys router with my rr service and I haven't had any troubles.
>
> On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 06:38, alex-at-pilosoft.com wrote:
> >
> > a) Not every DSL provider requires PPPoE. If you look around, you'll find
> > quite a few who providers who don't.
> >
> > b) Discussion about queso/fingerprinting/whatever is pointless. Ruben
> > obviously can't figure out how to configure ip{chains,tables} and dhcpcd.
> >
> > c) While it is technically _possible_ to detect NAT'd hosts behind NAT
> > router, it is not worth doing for a cable provider like RR who struggles
> > with much simpler things.
> >
> > d) Even the MAC lock is easily defeated: If you have a linksys device and
> > can't figure out how to put your old MAC in, or if you have a device that
> > won't allow MAC change, you can just call RR and say "Oh, I have a new
> > computer, won't you please reset me MAC". Works every time.
> >
> > e) Somehow, it appears that people on this list, including the "host" of
> > the list just don't believe in "smart questions".
> >
> > See this link regarding "smart questions", and especially the chapter
> > "before you ask": http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >
> > -alex
> >
> > On 28 May 2002, jonathan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > they haven't blocked any of my ports for 18months. i use a netgear
> > > router that allows me to spoof the mac address and, at the time, was a
> > > lttle more flexible that the linksys as it did automatic ddns.they have
> > > probed my system a couple of times, most of the scans are from their
> > > customers trying to run scripts. i drop any connections specifically
> > > from them, in any case. they lost 60 billion dollars last quarter. i
> > > don't know that they're in a position to be cutting of service.
> > >
> > > that said, i'm sure they're as bad as the rest of the ip's,
> > > when it comes to their monopolistic pricing/bandwidth policies. (after
> > > all, the federal, state, and local governments gave them unregulated
> > > monopolies, so why shouldn't they be in a position to dictate.
> > > notwithstanding that it is the same as telling me what words i'm allowed
> > > to use when i talk on the phone).
> > >
> > > anyway, they give you a free 60days, so there's not much harm in trying
> > > it. they have a self-install now, for the network, so you don't have to
> > > have some idiot show up to "configure" the service and tell you the only
> > > support mac and windows...
> > >
> > > they're jerks, of course, but so are all the dsl guys who are requiring
> > > ppoe, which is a bigger pain in the ass and more restrictive.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Linux Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
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>
> ____________________________
> New Yorker Linux Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
>
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