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| DATE | 2002-02-27 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] SNA Borough Hall Proposal
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Does anyone know of a Free Software SNA appliance
What IS SNA. SAMBA has something, but the website seems to be down.
Ruben
On 2002.02.27 13:19 Michael Richardson wrote:
>
> No Applix. I am at work. Anything that is not Micro$oft (spelled lots and
> lots of MONEY is not allowed).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:04 PM
> To: Michael Richardson
> Cc: 'hangout -at- nylxs . com'
> Subject: Re: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
>
>
>
> Do you have Applix?
>
> I'll send you the aw file.
>
>
> On 2002.02.27 12:48 Michael Richardson wrote:
> >
> > 1)In the 2nd paragraph you have meeting which should be meets.
> > 2)Give the definition of what free software is. Most people do not
> > understand what it is and how it works. The first thought is it is some
> > kind of scam. 2nd thought is if it is free how do they make money?
> > 3)Let them know what can be used instead of (and can read) M$ Word and M$
> > Excel. (This is a major sticking point).
> > Michael
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:27 PM
> > To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: [hangout] Borough Hall Proposal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For Review and Comment:
> >
> > NYLXS Borohall Proposal for Free Software
> >
> >
> > Overview: Borohall Brooklyn is in need of an upgrade in it's computing
> > facilities. It is the objective of the Borough Presidents office to bring
> > to the facility a modern system of groupware services, desktop solutions,
> > internet access, and web services, in the most cost cost efficient
> possible
> > for the benefit of the tax payer. In addition, a secondary objective of
> the
> > Borough Presidents office is to involve local Brooklyn businesses, groups
> > and services in this effort.
> >
> > NYLXS is a Free Software organization which meeting largely in Brooklyn
> and
> > Manhattan. We propose that in order for the Borough Presidents Office to
> > obtain it's objectives, it needs to use a system which is mostly based on
> > Free Software. Free Software will give the lowest cost of total ownership
> > to the tax payer for the following reasons:
> >
> > · No per seat Licensing fees
> > · No upgrade costs
> > · No need for special Virus software
> > · Ease of administration
> > · Ease of upgrade
> > · Simplified Security
> > · Infinitely expandable
> > · Less Frequent Hardware upgrade needed
> > · Ease of inter-operability
> > · Better Tech Support
> > · Proven Software Model
> > · Built in groupware features
> >
> >
> > Peter Cotton, the main contact point for the Borough Presidents Office
> > underlined the following
> > computer needs for the Borough Hall Offices at 802-3900 ext 3759. Jon
> > Bobber, Ruben Safir and Kevin Millani meet for 2 hours with PEter
> outlining
> > his most basic needs for Borough Hall.
> >
> > Peter presented the following needs and concerns
> >
> > Web Server - BH wants to move the Web Services for Borough Presidents
> office
> > into Borough Hal, and away from the Brooklyn Public Library, as it is
> > presently.
> >
> > Mail - BH needs to implement a reliable e-mail system. He suggested
> > exchange, but we strongly recommended that exchange is insecure,
> expensive,
> > and will need huge sums of money spent on tech support and anti-virus
> > software.
> >
> > Group wide Scheduling Software - BH is looking for a group wide scheduling
> > system. Such a system is not much different than NYLXS's calendering
> > programs.
> >
> > SA Server
> > dewit
> > 3270 - Terminals for the IBM systems are build into most Linux
> distributions
> > and pose no trouble.
> > Final Management Systems
> > Training - BH is concerned that the new systems will require some end user
> > training. Both NYLXS and Brooklyn Linux Solutions can and will provide
> > inexpensive training for all of Borough Hall
> >
> >
> >
> > NYLXS Proposed Solutions:
> >
> > Web Services - NYLXS can install a perfectly adequate and an advanced
> Apache
> > Web Server appliance which will provide all the needed power and services
> > which the Borough will need. Ruben Safir, as web site developer of
> Brooklyn
> > on Line, and NYLXS's systems has broad experience with both the type of
> > development which will need to be done, and the level of serves which will
> > be needed to provide adequate services for the Brooklyn Public. A basic
> > Server can be installed and setup on new Hardware for cost of less than
> > 1,100. A system specification such as this one through Brooklyn Linux
> > Solutions is adequate:
> >
> >
> >
> > Selected Base Price: $459.00
> > /Upgrade Cost
> > 3671,3443,2247 AMD Athlon 1.2GHz $163.00
> > 3359 Asus A7V-KT133 ATA/100 Motherboard $24.00
> > 1282 In-Win ATX Full Tower with 300 Watt Power Supply $18.00
> > 2304,2304 512MB PC133 SDRAM Memory (Two 256MB DIMMs) $168.00
> > 3991 20.4GB UDMA-4 ATA/100 5400RPM $0.00
> > 3502 52x IDE CD-ROM $0.00 1082 1.44MB Floppy Drive $0.00
> > 1239 Jaton Trident 4MB 2X AGP Video Card $0.00
> > nosnd No Sound Card $0.00
> > nomod No Modem $0.00 1077,
> > 1077 Two 3COM 3C905B-TX 10/100 PCI Network Card $98.00
> > nospeak No Speakers $0.00
> > noprin No Printer $0.00
> > SDFUTLV556 New 15inch Futura monitor .28mm Dot pitch $136.00
> > 1802 104-Key PS/2 Keyboard $0.00 1295 Logitech First Mouse 3 Button Mouse
> > $13.00 4315 Red Hat 7.1 GPL (CDROM Only) $0.00 Subtotal: $1,079.00
> >
> > Note that hardware pricing can change. In addition, you can expect a $200
> > fee for setting up the servicer. and further costs from porting the
> current
> > website and training.
> >
> > Apache is THE CHOICE for Web services on the internet because it is free,
> > secure, easy to maintain, and is a powerful applications server. The
> Server
> > should be set up with Apache, modperl, and embperl for a powerful mix
> > services and flexibility which outperforms all closed sourced solutions.
> In
> > addition, NYLXS graduates through it's education program students trained
> on
> > this system who can volunteer to help, or be hired for tech support.
> >
> > Mail - Mail is Free on all Linux systems, secured and without limits. We
> > will setup Sendmail and pop services to all clients connected to the
> system.
> > In addition, we will setup Secure DNS for mail routing. When users are
> > created, they will be automatically added to the mail system. The system
> is
> > reliable and easy to maintain.
> >
> > Group wide Scheduling Software - Scheduling software has been developed
> from
> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions and we can easily Implement Most importantly
> > about this is that we can extend this system and customize it for the
> > Office, and even other outside contacts which Borough Hall might need to
> > include in their family of friends. We have used this software
> extensively
> > and found it to be very reliable, and run off the MYSQL database system,
> > making it extremely robust and flexible, yet inexpensive and easy to
> > maintain. NYLXS has a number of qualified people to work with this
> system.
> > This system can be brought in for the cost of labor to setup, with no
> > licensing fees.
> >
> > In addition, the evolution mail clients now include hooks for groupware
> > services, scheduling and tasks listings.
> >
> > In addition to the savings of these system, they will be integrated into
> > Free Software Desktops. These desktops are superior to Microsoft set up
> in
> > several respects. They are free of licensing cost, nearly virus proof,
> easy
> > to use and to train on, they are network ready out of the box, and free to
> > upgrade. Borough Hall will have the advantage of being able to choose
> from
> > 10's of thousands of software package to fill every groupware and computer
> > task, most for for free for now and into the future.
> >
> > SA Server -
> >
> > Dewit -
> >
> > 3270 - These terminals are built into the systems at no cost.
> >
> > Financial Management Systems - This system will require Borough Hall to
> > provide specifics for before we can lay out a proposal. We should be able
> > to make it work without any trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition, NYLXS would like to include the file manager needs of the
> > Office. It is likely that file sharing and transferring will be a part of
> > the eventual internal solution for the Offices.
> >
> > Linux makes a superb file sharing network system. A computer equal to the
> > Web server should be able to service most of Borough Hall. In addition,
> we
> > can use in build in VPN solutions to make files and the system available
> > securely to other buildings in the City infrastructure using FreesWan.
> > Setting this up will cost less than $2000 in labor, and no per seat
> > licensing for the server. It functions with Windows clients, as well as
> Mac
> > Clients and Free Software Clients.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > __________________________
> >
> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > __________________________
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> > articles from around the net
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/sins.mp3 - C'est La Vie and a boy named Joe
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> >
> > 1-718-382-5752
> >
> >
> >
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> __________________________
>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> __________________________
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> articles from around the net
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/sins.mp3 - C'est La Vie and a boy named Joe
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
>
> 1-718-382-5752
>
>
>
> ____________________________
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> Fair Use -
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/sins.mp3 - C'est La Vie and a boy named Joe
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
1-718-382-5752
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