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| DATE | 2002-01-29 |
| FROM | marco
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
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I assume you meant testing. This would be crazily difficult
to implement.
Wouldn't it be easier to let the student enroll, and then
drop out and go to the pre-requisite class if the material
is really too difficult. At $200 bucks a class there could
be no refund: student's decision, student's risk.
The instructor can just make it very clear what will be
taught in this class, and what topics will not be covered.
I find any program which treats its students as sheep
insulting. The student should make the decision.
Ruben Safir wrote:
> We can teting people and put them into a proper
> accessment and course structure.
>
> Unprepared students make it unfair to the instructor
> and the rest of the class.
>
> Ruben
>
> On 2002.01.29 10:50:46 -0500 marco wrote:
>
>>>Obviously it is up to the student to evaluate his/her own
>>>preparedness for the course.
>>>
>>>There are people who already have a very solid command line
>>>but might want to take advanced networking.
>>>
>>> If you/we require everyone to take the whole program, I
>>>would find this to be a serious limitation to the
>>>usefullness of this group.
>>> As a smart person who has learned mostly from buying the
>>>book and doing it, I find enforced prerequisites quite evil.
>>>
>>>If you can't trust the student to make intelligent decisions
>>>about his/her own preparedness, how can you ever trust them
>>>to become the strong linux/free-software citizen you envision?
>>>
>>> You don't cultivate a do-it-yourself, do'er mentality by
>>>enforcing pre-requisites.
>>>
>>>Ruben Safir wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Students need to build up on their skills, not
>>>>check into Advanced networking without the
>>>>background of using the command line.
>>>>
>>>>We can let greedy commercial vendors do stupid
>>>>things like that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ruben
>>>>
>>>>On 2002.01.29 02:59:03 -0500 marco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't read this as I was typing my other responce,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've thought about this complete program for 3 years
>>>>>>>already. It can NOT be done properly without student
>>>>>>>ownership of the hardware, and standardized hardware
>>>>>>>at that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the complete program can benefit from another
>>>>>>type of student. The student who only takes one or two
>>>>>>classes should feel welcome also, even realising that the
>>>>>>main goal of the Education is the whole program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a university you take classes in your major as well as
>>>>>>any other class the school has to offer. NYLXS should
>>>>>>accomodate students who wish to get the major, as well as
>>>>>>those who just want to brush up on a topic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
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